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San Francisco Bay area transit considers imposing a mileage tax

GasBuddy Blog -- Under a proposal that is in its early stages, San Francisco Bay area drivers could be required to install GPS-like odometers or other devices in their vehicles and pay anywhere from a penny to 10-cents per mile driven, according to reports from AP and the Sacramento Bee.

The Metropolitan Transportation Commission and the Association of Bay Area Governments approved going forward with a study of a Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) tax as part of what the AP says is "a broader environmental review of several transportation options."

The current proposal would charge motorists a tax on every mile they drive in the nine-county region as a way to raise money for roads and public transit while reducing traffic and pollution.

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Submitted Jul 23, 2012 By: PD

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QuagmireLA Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,079 Points:160,365 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 7:40:49 PM Ignore QuagmireLA Report Abuse Anything for a buck. And while we're at perhaps we should make refusal to play along a hanging offense. Less drivers = less cars on road = less pollution. See everybody wins except the individual.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,003 Points:598,710 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 1:24:40 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 5:56:29 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse so those, who can't afford living closer due to high rent, now will have to pay more, so they are even less able to afford anything else?
NSP31A Sophomore Author New Hampshire Posts:127 Points:248,050 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:25:40 AM Ignore NSP31A Report Abuse Just another excuse to make government larger. San Francisco needs to vote these clowns out of office!
rocki00 Rookie Author Michigan Posts:24 Points:73,915 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 7:13:09 AM Ignore rocki00 Report Abuse Most new cars already have a device installed for big brother to watch us. So what's new!
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,952 Points:2,079,135 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 5:39:06 PM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Only in California!
SUV2009 Champion Author Orlando Posts:4,418 Points:1,144,190 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 5:37:29 PM Ignore SUV2009 Report Abuse ok
andy1024 Champion Author Allentown Posts:1,702 Points:448,150 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 5:32:24 PM Ignore andy1024 Report Abuse if you are going to San Francisco Be sure to put a G-P-S in your hair If you are going to San Francisco You are going to meet some tax people there For those who come to San Francisco Summer time won't be a drivin' there In the street of San Francisco Tax people with G-P-S in their hair All across the nation Such a strange vibration No car in motion There's whole generation With a new traffic congestion No car in motion No car in motion
melvindale Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,438 Points:351,230 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 4:16:16 PM Ignore melvindale Report Abuse ok
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,034 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 4:06:59 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse A GPS mileage tax is what its coming to as more and more city, counties and states consider the very same thing to recoup lost fuel tax revenue. You install the GPS device at your own expense and pay the mandated mileage fee too. Just make sure all fuel taxes are used for the repair or replacement of roads and bridges only. No fuel taxes dumped into the states general fund and siphoned off for other uses! With this system, the EV's and Inbreds will pay their fair share of road and bridge use too! If the GPS mileage tax is imposed, then the fuel tax is eliminated. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,034 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 4:05:54 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse o
Tekkie Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,333 Points:913,630 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:36:51 PM Ignore Tekkie Report Abuse MORE TAXES!
pliskin Champion Author Syracuse Posts:6,086 Points:1,733,600 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:26:53 PM Ignore pliskin Report Abuse A beautiful city, so sad they allow themselves to live under these loss of civil rights and freedoms.
mabrams184 Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,104 Points:534,015 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:22:24 PM Ignore mabrams184 Report Abuse So many politician go for the lazy answer. Just increase taxes and don't worry about efficient management. They also want to intrude on the personal rights "for the good of the people" as an excuse for their own agenda.
357revo Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:18,127 Points:2,385,560 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:22:13 PM Ignore 357revo Report Abuse This will get all those greenies who currently don't contribute their "fair share" because they're using electricity instead of paying gasoline fuel taxes.
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,376 Points:3,451,640 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:19:25 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse we don't need no stinkin' roads!
eye-spy Champion Author Quebec Posts:4,588 Points:2,417,845 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:17:38 PM Ignore eye-spy Report Abuse In other words, the local residents pay, non residents don't?? There has to be a better solution then this!!
dougtaylor1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,751 Points:447,325 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:14:48 PM Ignore dougtaylor1 Report Abuse Let's start charging for each breath of air too. Idiots! [Edited by: dougtaylor1 at 7/24/2012 2:16:29 PM EST]
ethanol_is_bad Sophomore Author Boise Posts:242 Points:143,710 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:12:46 PM Ignore ethanol_is_bad Report Abuse If you start charging people in S.F. more money in taxes they won't be able to afford their HIV/AIDS medications...
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,729 Points:2,155,620 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:12:04 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Gas tax is to pay for road work which has worked for 70 years.
Schnappi Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:71 Points:115,875 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:11:47 PM Ignore Schnappi Report Abuse I goes only on highways/interstates
Dsin44 Champion Author Abbotsford Posts:1,272 Points:272,660 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:11:23 PM Ignore Dsin44 Report Abuse what next...
ftsgt Champion Author Illinois Posts:13,047 Points:2,483,695 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:11:16 PM Ignore ftsgt Report Abuse Always something ...
thunderstruck All-Star Author Chicago Posts:710 Points:734,505 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:08:20 PM Ignore thunderstruck Report Abuse What taxes do they propose to reduce in exchange for this, so it's a revenue neutral tax hike?
srchr Champion Author San Jose Posts:7,254 Points:1,620,050 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:05:00 PM Ignore srchr Report Abuse coming soon to your neighborhood
eddyp94 Champion Author Ontario Posts:8,163 Points:1,660,835 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:04:36 PM Ignore eddyp94 Report Abuse Don't care, I don't live in that area...
Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,760 Points:1,217,995 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:02:36 PM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse Highway robbery!
DirtDauber Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,786 Points:1,628,435 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:01:49 PM Ignore DirtDauber Report Abuse Good luck with this. Another government entity that has far overspent the taxpayers money.
bigrigAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,738 Points:1,053,685 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 2:01:33 PM Ignore bigrigAZ Report Abuse No wonder Calif. is going broke. When people get this news and more like it every week they move out of calif. There goes your revenue. Just like B.o. When things go bad and there's no money raise a new tax. No more visits to california if they charge tourist this Crap for driving on their roads - used to be a great state. Others states don't need to follow this stupid lead this time.
Cheepo Champion Author Tampa Posts:9,889 Points:3,128,005 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:59:48 PM Ignore Cheepo Report Abuse More money grabbing for a broken down government!!!!!!!!
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,063 Points:1,079,405 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:57:24 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse No, thank you!!!!!
jimbo1867 Champion Author Arizona Posts:5,377 Points:2,055,525 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:54:37 PM Ignore jimbo1867 Report Abuse uhuh uhuh uhuh
GRUMPY55 Champion Author California Posts:1,629 Points:423,500 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:51:50 PM Ignore GRUMPY55 Report Abuse That's BULL CRAP
miiike572 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:798 Points:525,790 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:51:36 PM Ignore miiike572 Report Abuse Do not think for a moment that this would remove any existing tax, it will just ad yet another.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,121 Points:823,620 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:51:13 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse Another day for this article on the Socialist Republic of San Francisco. They have always sought new ways to raise taxes and to secede from California and the USA. They are as far left on the fringe as you can get.
manbig13 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,431 Points:556,725 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:49:46 PM Ignore manbig13 Report Abuse you can check it manually each year but no gps on my personal property!
Glock26 Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,529 Points:633,360 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:48:46 PM Ignore Glock26 Report Abuse Good way to screw over everybody at the same time!!!
MetroManiac Champion Author Rochester Posts:1,727 Points:279,460 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:48:41 PM Ignore MetroManiac Report Abuse wrap that gps thing in foil and block the signal.
gravityhurts Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,098 Points:938,480 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:48:14 PM Ignore gravityhurts Report Abuse And this is why California is in the mess it's in.
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:47:45 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse hot air tax...... : )
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,677 Points:805,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:47:14 PM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse boot the stupid politicians who even propose such an idea
quattro02 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,514 Points:192,185 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:46:28 PM Ignore quattro02 Report Abuse I still think this is a conspiracy by drivers of giant fuel inefficient vehicles to pay less tax. The tax-per-gallon scheme we have works well. The heavy users "use up" more of the road than the light users. The heavy users use more fuel and therefore pay more tax, which in theory goes back intoi the roads. We do have to find a way to tax vehicles that do not use gasoline as a fuel. If the per-mile scheme is limited to them, then I am OK with it.
fullauto Champion Author Reading Posts:5,320 Points:1,472,065 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:44:05 PM Ignore fullauto Report Abuse weight tax - stupidity tax - "sin" taxes (syntax)
Asbury09 Champion Author Iowa Posts:7,218 Points:1,531,280 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:43:02 PM Ignore Asbury09 Report Abuse looking to replace lost fuel taxes
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,650 Points:1,211,830 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:42:53 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Stale... But still don't like it....
bsmerl Champion Author Florida Posts:1,088 Points:382,135 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:42:07 PM Ignore bsmerl Report Abuse Hope this is nothing more than a consideration
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,575 Points:1,466,255 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:40:55 PM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Leave it to San Francisco Bay to put one more tax on drivers.
ChuckGVT Champion Author Vermont Posts:6,698 Points:1,693,950 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:39:44 PM Ignore ChuckGVT Report Abuse Stale "news."
nj2000ng Champion Author Houston Posts:1,507 Points:449,020 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:38:58 PM Ignore nj2000ng Report Abuse Hah!
svspyda Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,673 Points:339,960 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 24, 2012 1:38:50 PM Ignore svspyda Report Abuse ok